OscailtThoughts on RevolutionRe-Thinking Anarchist-Socialist Revolution, in Response to a Paper by Ron Tabor2023-04-07T17:14:52+08:00Anarkismoanarkismoeditors@lists.riseup.nethttp://www.anarkismo.net/atomfullposts?story_id=32749http://www.anarkismo.net/graphics/feedlogo.gifAbout revolutionhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/32749#comment206952023-04-07T17:14:52+08:00MazenThis controversy about revolution can be described as a sophistical polemic , if...This controversy about revolution can be described as a sophistical polemic , if what Ron said is right , that a revolution is not expected in the foreseen future , so we are discussing here a hypothetical situation , doesn’t matter really if it will be a class or non-class one , if it will be based on moral or social grounds … People on anarchistnews who you describe as individualists or nihilists , are just trying to be realistic and live now as per their ideals or as they like … In anarchism it’s a little bit different from Marxism , you cannot dismiss a whole current or a way of thinking simply by labelling them individualists or nihilists , you need to debate their thinking more thoroughly … In fact we have to admit that the momentum of the anti authoritarian and horizontal insurgence is behind us now and what we have to consider here is the rise of far right on one side and of identity politics on the opposing side that can only promise existential and primitive struggles or conflicts , at least one cannot help being somehow pessimistic when it comes to revolution , or his own freedom or even his wellbeing A Sophistical Polemic?http://www.anarkismo.net/article/32749#comment207142023-04-11T06:44:56+08:00Waynedrwdprice at aol dot com I start from the view that a revolution is desirable as well as needed—if human... I start from the view that a revolution is desirable as well as needed—if humanity is to avoid ecological catastrophes, nuclear war, authoritarian governments, and economic decline, as well as other evils. Certainly it does not look likely in the immediate future. But there have been upheavals around the world and sudden changes in mass consciousness at times. It does not seem implausible for a revolutionary libertarian socialist movement to develop in the U.S., say, comparable to the far-right movement. In any case it is worth working for. <br />
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Mazen writes, “you cannot dismiss a whole current or a way of thinking simply by labelling them individualists or nihilists , you need to debate their thinking more thoroughly.”<br />
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I was not simply labelling some people. Many commenters on anarchistnews.org are quite explicit in calling themselves individualists, nihilists, Stirnerites, neo-primitivists, etc. I have written a good deal about these viewpoints (see my review of a book on Stirner).revolutionhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/32749#comment207222023-04-12T16:01:35+08:00ANdreaa23ferrasonandreaa at gmail dot comAll revolutions are historical inevitabilities until they happen." "Visionaries ...All revolutions are historical inevitabilities until they happen." "Visionaries have no place in declining societies." "As long as there is something that justifies the end, the end may justify the means."My opinionhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/32749#comment207462023-04-18T13:35:28+08:00tonyadamsI agree with this article opinion that Ron's rejection of socialism and the left...I agree with this article opinion that Ron's rejection of socialism and the left represents a final abandonment of working-class revolutionary politics.trying to be more realistic and less dogmatichttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/32749#comment208092023-04-25T21:24:45+08:00mazenLet's try to give a proper explanation and hope for the young people who were no...Let's try to give a proper explanation and hope for the young people who were not indoctrinated during the cold war and the rise of Marxism<br />
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