OscailtBritish and Irish anarchists on London bombingsStatements issued by anarchist and libertarian communist organisations in Britain in response to this mornings bombings.2005-07-08T01:25:15+08:00Anarkismoanarkismoeditors@lists.riseup.nethttp://www.anarkismo.net/atomfullposts?story_id=885http://www.anarkismo.net/graphics/feedlogo.gifthe wrong war?http://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8512005-07-08T01:25:15+08:00pThis Class War statement is hilarious. Hey Class War, maybe there were rich peop...This Class War statement is hilarious. Hey Class War, maybe there were rich people on those tubes and on the tourist buses. Have you developed a barometer yet for measuring who's allowed to die in your "good" (ie. "class") war?you dumbasshttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8532005-07-08T05:01:09+08:00neorich people are found in SUVs and in mansions and in luxury cars. rich people ca...rich people are found in SUVs and in mansions and in luxury cars. rich people can also be found in areas highly protected.oh come onhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8542005-07-08T05:20:27+08:00pYou can get a used SUV for a couple grand. Those are the "rich" people you're ad...You can get a used SUV for a couple grand. Those are the "rich" people you're advocating killing (?!) -- and as part of an anarchist politics?! Gimme a break!<br />
Actually, it's not just your *poor judgment* of *who* "the rich" *actually are* that nauseats me. It's the "Kill Rich People" line altogether (put forth by Class War) because it's genocidal, and all anarchists should proudly oppose it, if not, they/we become apologists for authoritarianism and mass violence. Please leave that out of anarchism.bshttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8552005-07-08T13:17:34+08:00oliverclass enemies are not in their position because of identity, they are there beca...class enemies are not in their position because of identity, they are there because of actions - ongoing actions which they could stop at any time. but so long as they have not stopped, they are actively contributing to the oppression and exploitation of people around the world.UK Anarchist Statement on Bombingshttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8562005-07-08T19:02:55+08:00AndrewAs social anarchists and libertarian communists, we deplore the horrific attacks...As social anarchists and libertarian communists, we deplore the horrific attacks on innocent people this morning in London. We express our deepest sympathy to anyone affected by the blasts. We condemn the use of violence against ordinary people and the perpetrators of the bombings whether they be Islamists or anyone else.
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Terrorist actions are completely at odds with any struggle for a freer, fairer society and never help oppressed people in any part of the globe. Instead violence against civilians is a tool of states and proto-states every bit as brutal as the ones they profess to oppose.
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The British Government, by sending British soldiers to kill and die in Iraq and Afghanistan has made all of us a target for terrorists in their pursuit of increased profit and power at the expense of ordinary working people.
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We stand for a world in which human solidarity and co-operation replace the quest for profit as society's driving force, and stand in solidarity with all people fighting exploitation and oppression in all its forms, from opponents to the occupation of Iraq here, to those in Iraq who are opposing both the occupying forces and the ultra-reactionary Islamists the Occupation helps strengthen.
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Our thoughts today are with the victims of this atrocity, and their loved ones.
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Statement Signed by (so far): <br>
Libcom.org Group<br>
Anarchist Federation<br>
IAF-IFA Secretariat<br>
Class War<br>
Colchester Solidarity Group<br>
West Midlands Anarchists<br>
Burnley Voice<br>
Ipswich Anarchists<br>
Norwich Anarchists<br>
Freedom Newspaper<br>
Preston Solidarity Federation<br>
Red Partyjustification?http://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8572005-07-08T19:44:45+08:00pYes, class is a structure, in which particular groups play roles within -- often...Yes, class is a structure, in which particular groups play roles within -- often different roles even within the same "class" (of which, venture capitalists play very different roles than inheritors -- who are both "rich people"). Not sure that it's so easy to be a class trader, to just drop out of a class. And if one can, does that make on revolutionary? I don't think so. The attempt to figure "who" is of the capitalist class is only a bad justification for groups like Class War to figure out who is a justifiable target of violence. THAT is NOT revolutionary action, unless one is a Stalinist.translationhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8592005-07-08T23:27:14+08:00NestorThis statement in Italian:This statement in Italian:about some leftist positionshttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8602005-07-09T00:29:15+08:00Manuel Baptistaluta_social at sapo dot ptSome 'leftists' (not anarchists) are always saying that the terrorist bombings i...Some 'leftists' (not anarchists) are always saying that the terrorist bombings in Irak or in other countries are the expression of anger from the oppressed people in these countries.<br />
This position is not only wrong, it is also counter-revolutionary!'UK' statementhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8632005-07-10T01:19:30+08:00Jason Branniganorganiseireland at yahoo dot ieOrganise! and the Just Books Collective in Belfast are also signatories to this ...Organise! and the Just Books Collective in Belfast are also signatories to this statement.Strange?http://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8682005-07-10T22:26:03+08:00revol68Have Organise and Just Books been cut off the list of signatures cos that would ...Have Organise and Just Books been cut off the list of signatures cos that would imply a rejection of republican teology? Organise has signed Irish and UK statements in the past and I would imagine continue to do so.nohttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8692005-07-10T22:41:39+08:00johnno they weren't cut off - anarkismo put up the statement before organise and jus...no they weren't cut off - anarkismo put up the statement before organise and just books were added to it by libcomparanoidhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8702005-07-11T01:42:05+08:00jason branniganorganiseireland at yahoo dot ieThats a bit paranoid revol68 isn't it?
You can't really blame people for rush...Thats a bit paranoid revol68 isn't it?<br />
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You can't really blame people for rushing off and posting something as this before the list was complete can you? Ask libcom how come it took so long to add the names of Organise! and Just Books to the list when an Organise! member suggested getting the statement endorsed and issued publicly by anarchist groups and organisations. But then I doubt there's a conspiracy there either mate.<br />
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Could the Britsh Anarchists bit be changed to British and Irish Anarchists in the title though? As the statement has been endorsed by both British and Irish Anarchists. Indymedia Ireland have already made this correction.<br />
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In solidarity;<br />
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Jason Brannigan<br />
for Organise!Header updatedhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8742005-07-11T18:55:00+08:00AndrewOK I updated the statements in the main article. I left it unchanged in the com...OK I updated the statements in the main article. I left it unchanged in the comment version so people can understand what the comment discussion is about.Thankshttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/885#comment8762005-07-11T23:20:57+08:00Jason Branniganorganiseireland at yahoo dot ieThank you.<br />
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In Solidarity;<br />
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JasonThank you.<br />
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In Solidarity;<br />
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Jason