OscailtThe Revolutionary Situation in Mexico and Revolution in the u.s.Oaxaca, Mexico has setting an example to the people of Mexico and to people all around the world. What started as a teacher’s movement against the privatization of education has turned into a popular movement against the state government. The APPO (Asemblea Popular de Pueblo de Oaxaca – Popular Peoples Assembly of Oaxaca) has been where the people have been connecting through and organizing themselves.2006-09-13T12:00:48+08:00Anarkismoanarkismoeditors@lists.riseup.nethttp://www.anarkismo.net/atomfullposts?story_id=3653http://www.anarkismo.net/graphics/feedlogo.gifTell truth about the US, stop lyinghttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment33042006-09-13T12:00:48+08:00Richard PeningerTellTheTruth at aol dot comI live in the US and work for the state. I can tell you that illegal aliens from...I live in the US and work for the state. I can tell you that illegal aliens from Mexico and other parts south here get fantastic treatment. The people of the US AND THE GOVERNMENT help them get homes, educate their children, pay for medical care, home care, and childcare when the mothers have to work. Mexican poor people are FIRST IN LINE above indiginous Americans to get college loans and full grant money, plus food stamps. They get free medical care at the emergency rooms. Our hospitals, and schools are absolutely over-flooded with poor and working class Mexicans. The American people wanted to help them so they turned a blind eye to it. Now that the system is breaking down, some states are finally beginning to put some restrictions on benefits. The US has been great to Mexico, and there IS NO POLICE STATE HERE. Police are accountable to independant public boards and civil officials. You are just trying to make the poor people in Mexico hate Americans. You are COMMUNISTS, and you lie about America. I know first hand that we are doing everything possible to help poor Mexicans. The rich class in Mexico needs to create business opportunities to help the poor get jobs and prosper. Mexico is one of the richest countries in the world in natural resources. Stop your communist plot to destroy America! We Americans do everything possible to help people in need and it is unjust. You are lying to poor people and making them angry so you can incite an unjust revolution. Why don't you try helping the people in Mexico get educations, build businesses, and prosper, instead of inciting riots? YOU MAY NOT ALTER OR EDIT THIS STATEMENT BUT MAY PUBLISH IT AS I HAVE WRITTEN IT.re: Richardhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment33132006-09-13T20:45:54+08:00AndrewHi Richard,
The claim that 'illegal aliens from Mexico and other parts south ...Hi Richard,
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The claim that 'illegal aliens from Mexico and other parts south here get fantastic treatment' seems a little odd as <em>"According to the U.S. Border Patrol, 1,954 people died crossing the U.S.-Mexico border between the years 1998-2004".</em> In the 30 odd years of its existence in comparison the Berlin wall 'only' killed some 300 people, would you also consider that 'fantastic treatment' or is it better described as a crime? The death rate on the US 'wall' is 30 times greater than the death rate on the Berlin wall.
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I'm not actually in the USA but in Ireland, a country that has also sent a huge number of 'illegal aliens' to the USA. Quite a few of my friends have been or are working in the USA illegally. But probably because they are white and arrive with a bit more money they did not have to risk their lives to get into the US in the first place.
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When you suggest we are communists you are sort of right but that is not the reason we highlight the abuses of the US police or migration. We do so because the people you call 'illegal' are what we see as 'fellow workers'. And we don't like to see our fellow workers excluded or beaten simply because they were born on one side of a border and we on another.
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But you will be pleased to know that as anarchist communists we don't just pick on the policy of the USA state but also that of all other states. As I mentioned I'm in Ireland and if you click on <a href="http://www.anarkismo.net/migrationracism/irelandbritain">http://www.anarkismo.net/migrationracism/irelandbritain</a> and look at the right hand column you will find a listing of similar articles we have published in relation to Ireland that make the same sort of points that this article make on the USA.
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A final point.
<p>The USA and these days Ireland are countries which contain a vast amount of wealth. But that wealth is very, very unevenly distributed with the top 1% holding most of it. There is more than enough wealth to pay for healthcare, education and housing for everyone and really that top 1% must snigger when someone like yourself is foolish enough to imagine that the problem is down to poor peoples need rather than rich peoples greed.The People Have the Right to Make a Standhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment33972006-09-24T05:13:15+08:00PrestonIn a country where people can be jailed without trial or being charged, where ci...In a country where people can be jailed without trial or being charged, where citizens die of hunger and lack of healthcare, where people do not always have access to adequete education, people will oppose the government. This is true in Mexico and the U.S. Communists do not lie, there are people who lie that are communists, but being a communist does not make someone a liar, if you believe that you have become a victim of propaganda. <br />
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Maybe the rich class in Mexico needs to create jobs, maybe the rich class in the U.S. does too, unfortunately the rich generally want to hold on to what they have, and obtain more. If the workers got paid what their work was worth, than these corporations would not make profits. The common people are all to often neglected, and they cannot be blamed for fighting their way from the poverty they are put in.<br />
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-PrestonDistribution of wealthhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment69372007-11-02T20:59:08+08:00Chichuckhallproductions at earthlink dot netThe fact is that we as americans, that pay our taxes, follow the laws, and work ...The fact is that we as americans, that pay our taxes, follow the laws, and work do not want our tax dollars to go to people who have not gone through the process of becoming a citizen of the the US. In Ireland you have traditions, Irish traditions. In America(USA) we have our own traditions that we would like all of the people that want to become citizens in our country to assimilate to. If they don't like it then don't come here. Its that simple. I want the people of Mexico to fight against their own governments not ours because we owe them nothing. Secondly, the wealth issue. Yeah, we have tons of money. Every week here in America we produce millionaires. Some of them last, some of them are stupid and blow all their money. Thats life. Why would I work my ass off just to give it to someone who may or may not deserve it? Let me be the judge of who gets my charity. There are less racial stigma than you think. We are an abrasive society. We say what we want because we don't give a shit. It doesn't mean that we hate a particular race or group of people. It means we use racial slurs to ensure maximum impact. Have you listened to any hip hop lately? I'm a hip hop producer so don't try to analyze me or the culture. In every society there will be racism. You cannot defeat it. You try to get past it and realize that people are people. You have to give them a chance to fix their own problems and even educate them on particulars that maybe they don't know about. Handouts create weak societies. Societies that don't have the backbone to work for themselves fail economically. You must create a hunger for competition and compassion in order to win in this world.You can not comparehttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment73482007-12-12T03:51:26+08:00joeYou can not compare deaths from the Berlin wall to deaths from people crossing t...You can not compare deaths from the Berlin wall to deaths from people crossing the United Stated border with Mexico. As a resident of the border with Mexico, I know first hand the conditions that exist in this area. Most of the border is uninproved scrub-type desert. Other than the Rio Grande are, there are many areas were there is no water to be found. This is in contrast to where there is a wall in a city. Plus the first point about them getting treated fantastically can not be rebuffed by discussing the people that die because they are in the middle of the wilderness. Simply looking at the social programs that the immigrants are able to gain access to with out being a citizen will prove that illegal immigrants are treated well.Chi, I Don't Think You Understand Anarchismhttp://www.anarkismo.net/article/3653#comment81252008-03-15T04:22:16+08:00AnarchoChi I don’t think you understand anarchism. Anarchism isn’t about taking your m...Chi I don’t think you understand anarchism. Anarchism isn’t about taking your money away and giving it to someone else, unless you are living off of the labor of others. It is the bosses, the owners, and the politicians that are getting the handouts in our society. They sit in their office making decisions without any real first-hand knowledge of what they deciding about. To them it’s abstract. They don’t think about the people they hurt with their decisions, or about how all their wealth comes from the labor of others they just care about the money.<br />
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We want the people at the bottom to be in charge and all the bosses and politicians can find real jobs instead of being parasites. If you work somewhere it should belong to you and anyone else who is working with you, not some distant, impersonal corporate board of executives. And then the people in charge will not be corrupted by power, and many people will form voluntary associations between each other’s groups in order to help each other out for mutual benefit.